Injuries?

[png tribe]

  Does anyone know what player's were hurt and will not be playing this week? I know our center went out hurt and I seen Jorgenson in and out of the game with a shoulder injury. They moved a freshman db up today and told him that they had lost a db to an injury. I don't remember seeing any db's hurt Friday.

[1989NDN]

I wish they would move up all the underclassmen (FR - JR) from the sub-varsity teams ... let those kids practice with the Varsity, get them some Friday/Saturday-night exposure to the speed and intensity of the game as they watch it from the sidelines (and see what the coaches and starters must do during in-game situations), and then use whatever depth we need due to injuries, grades, or whatever else causes a 1st or 2nd stringer to go down.  Stack them 4 and 5 deep on the sidelines the way Katy and Austin Westlake do dressing out 120+.  (1) it could be intimidating for a smaller school to see 120+ Indian warm bodies in purple and white; (2) it is a reward for the underclassmen who busted it all year long; (3) it is an incentive for the underclassmen to bust it during the offseason for a shot at Varsity next year; and, (4) you never know who you might need on any given Friday/Saturday.  Let's send 10+ buses full of players ... this is valuable experience and practice time.  We need to create as many scout teams as possible that go 100 mph so our Varsity will be ready to execute.  Move'em up and tell them to be and Indian, you need to practice like one.  Get after it.  Then, next Aug., we'll have 300+ kids ready to suit up 9-12 ... everyone wants to be part of a winner.

Go Indians.  Peace.

[png tribe]

Anyone know why the guy's that got moved up had to sit outside during halftime?

[pngfan66]

I don't see them moving a freshman up to varsity for a DB. There are several Sophomores and Juniors that are lights out on the D from the JV. IF there was a Freshman D back that good he would have been on the JV or already on the Varsity. I agree with bringing the entire JV up to the varsity level. Right now they only brought up the Juniors. Those boys that were sitting outside during half time were the Juniors they brought up off of the JV team.

[carzan]

Anyone know why the guy's that got moved up had to sit outside during halftime?

I have heard that the guys moved up do not enter the locker room at anytime. Before the game or at halftime. 

[bark]

I saw the guys outside the lockerroom too.  I think it sucks, if your nice enough to invite me don't make me sit outside. 

I know some will shoot me down on this - but it is my opinion - no one is right or wrong, it is just that, an opinion.

I get a lot of heat for comparing to the past BUT here goes!  in a previous regime they made a point that all felt a part of the team.  Having to sit outside is not that feeling. 

It is Faircloth's team and his decision - I respect it, but don't agree

Lets look forward to another win!!!

[lu cards]

same situation as last year.all jrs are given the option of being moved up.they arent allowed to participate in everything but they get a great seat to watch the game.

[NDN NATION]

In my humble opinion......THAT SUCKS.  Why move them up  if they are not even allowed in the locker room.  Sorry but that isn't team building in my opinion and that is all this is MY opinion.

[dayton1]

In my humble opinion......THAT SUCKS.  Why move them up  if they are not even allowed in the locker room.  Sorry but that isn't team building in my opinion and that is all this is MY opinion.

Dayton does the same thing at some playoff venues. Could be the size of the locker rooms... 'Cause they didn't do it at the butch but did a couple of years ago at Galena Park

[lu cards]

I wish they would move up all the underclassmen (FR - JR) from the sub-varsity teams ... let those kids practice with the Varsity, get them some Friday/Saturday-night exposure to the speed and intensity of the game as they watch it from the sidelines (and see what the coaches and starters must do during in-game situations), and then use whatever depth we need due to injuries, grades, or whatever else causes a 1st or 2nd stringer to go down.  Stack them 4 and 5 deep on the sidelines the way Katy and Austin Westlake do dressing out 120+.  (1) it could be intimidating for a smaller school to see 120+ Indian warm bodies in purple and white; (2) it is a reward for the underclassmen who busted it all year long; (3) it is an incentive for the underclassmen to bust it during the offseason for a shot at Varsity next year; and, (4) you never know who you might need on any given Friday/Saturday.  Let's send 10+ buses full of players ... this is valuable experience and practice time.  We need to create as many scout teams as possible that go 100 mph so our Varsity will be ready to execute.  Move'em up and tell them to be and Indian, you need to practice like one.  Get after it.  Then, next Aug., we'll have 300+ kids ready to suit up 9-12 ... everyone wants to be part of a winner.

Go Indians.  Peace.

the entire jv is practicing with varsity.freshmen are still practicing also.i think it boils down to $$$.times are tough and we could use the money in other areas.im all for bringing up more kids but until the economy picks up it may be the right call.

[lu cards]

In my humble opinion......THAT SUCKS.  Why move them up  if they are not even allowed in the locker room.  Sorry but that isn't team building in my opinion and that is all this is MY opinion.

my understanding is there given the option of dressing out.practice is not optional but all jrs can travel with team if they choose to.not taking a side one way or the other but rather making sure everyone knows its optional.

[OldEagle]

Ever heard of logistics?  There is a lot going on inside a locker room during a halftime.  Probably not enough room for everyone.  However I also agree it doesn't seem right to treat the "new" guys differently because they are part of the team.  Wish I had a solution.  Maybe they could go to the bus so everyone wouldn't see them being treating as 2nd class people.  Any other ideas?  

[NDN NATION]

In my humble opinion......THAT SUCKS.  Why move them up  if they are not even allowed in the locker room.  Sorry but that isn't team building in my opinion and that is all this is MY opinion.

my understanding is there given the option of dressing out.practice is not optional but all jrs can travel with team if they choose to.not taking a side one way or the other but rather making sure everyone knows its optional.

I see as I have said I have no dog in this.

[phetonb]

In my humble opinion......THAT SUCKS.  Why move them up  if they are not even allowed in the locker room.  Sorry but that isn't team building in my opinion and that is all this is MY opinion.

my understanding is there given the option of dressing out.practice is not optional but all jrs can travel with team if they choose to.not taking a side one way or the other but rather making sure everyone knows its optional.

I know that all these young men are proud to be there. In my opinion, having ALL of them in the locker room "could" be a problem.  Why upset the season long locker room atmosphere to add in extra players that WILL NOT PLAY??  Extra bodies makes for extra noise, and less room for the PLAYERS that will play. Perhaps Coach Faircloth knows this and has his rules this way for a reason.

If I were a Jr. on JV and given the option to go and suit out, even though I would not play or be in the locker room, I would do it. The excitement of being on the sideline must be special for those JV Players that go.

[NDNmom91]

I encourage everyone to join the Booster Club and if you're a member already please come to the meetings.  It's a great chance to ask questions about decisions like this.  Coach is more than willing to answer questions and explain how decisions were made.

[pnprntkal]

As much as it hurts our hearts to see the boys sitting outside, I know 99% are just proud as heck to be there and be any part of the experience!  This was a bit of an issue last year as well (with some parents...not kids).  You have to keep it in perspective...it's an opportunity to be a part of something great and hopefully give these kids a glimpse of next year and an incentive to continue working hard.  Let's don't cry about what we DON'T get and just be happy for what we DO get!

[dayton1]

you guys have a huge team #'s wise. Adding 20+ to the locker room would be really crowded. Like someone else said. I wouldn't change the atmosphere/chemistry in the locker room of a team with a 6 game winning streak for anything.

[NDN NATION]

I didn't even think about the atmosphere already in place in the locker room.  So I rescind my humble opinion.

[pnprntkal]

I didn't even think about the atmosphere already in place in the locker room.  So I rescind my humble opinion.

Exactly why I qualified my statement.  As a mother, you automatically feel bad for them and it's hard to keep it in perspective! 

[indian17]

I have to add my two cents again and I believe last year this same thread was going on. I played during the Malone era in 89 we went to the playoffs we were not allowed to go in the locker room with the varsity and we didn't care because we got to go on the field and be on the sideline during the games. It was great and we did not complain one bit.

[NDN4Life]

So any injuries or we just talking about standing outside the locker room? Can we really not find something every week to complain about next someone is going to say I stood in line at the concession stand for an hour. Come on Indian Nation we are better then that.

[png tribe]

Yes, freshman Corbin Coy was moved up to varsity and is practicing today. Now I don't think he'll play or go into the lockerroom but he was moved up contrary to what you think png66.

[pngfan66]

Yes, freshman Corbin Coy was moved up to varsity and is practicing today. Now I don't think he'll play or go into the lockerroom but he was moved up contrary to what you think png66.

Yeah I just found out that they brought up 2 freshmen players to varsity today. Both being running backs. I just found it strange to do that, but I have watched these boys play and they are good. As far as the boys staying out of the locker room, hey just the opportunity to suit up and be involved in a playoff game is enough to be pumped up. Let this issue go away. I think its great that the coaches bring up some of these boys. I do wish they would have brought up a few of the Sophomore players that played hard all year. But they will all get their chances next year.

[png tribe]

 I had heard one of our db's failed, anyone heard this? Maybe this is the reason this young man got moved up. He was told there were some injuries. He was already told that he would be on the varsity next season. So they must see a lot in him.

[ndnsrock44]

Anyone who has been to a Booster Club Meeting and heard Coach Faircloth talk about his players knows that he would never do something to mistreat his kids. You can tell how much he loves his players. I would guess that with the large number of kids that were already on varsity, it is a space issue. Plus, those kids don't need to be in there at halftime if they are not playing. Going into the locker room at halftime is not about being comfortable in a climate controlled environment....its about the kids playing getting some rest and the big thing is the coaches making adjustments for the second half. If you have extra bodies, they can only get in the way and add to the noise in there. The kids that have been brought up in the past have not been treated like "they were part of the team". They always rode on the crappy bus and did not get all the perks of the Varsity players. Like has been said before, they are being rewarded for their hard work by being allowed to dress and travel with the Varsity...that is what they have earned. If they didn't get brought up, guess what? They would still be outside at halftime, but they would be in the stands. NDN4Life...I agree withyou 100%...it would be nice to have a week without some petty complaint and we are better than that.