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Offline bamakid

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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2010, 07:20:03 PM »
that makes no sence to me .i would file that under rumor.

I'll be the first to admit that this is just what I've heard. It could be true or it could be something that was taken way out of context in every possible way - I would have no way of knowing for sure because I'm not involved with the Indianettes.
The thing about being an Indian is that you're an Indian, no matter what. It doesn't matter if you play soccer or a tuba, it doesn't matter if you're on the football team or the drill team, it doesn't matter if you lead the cheers or the jeers. You're still part of that "Honor, Pride, & Tradition."

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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2010, 12:16:45 PM »
I spoke wih M. Curl today.He had not heard anything about the Indianetts useing last years boxes,I told him I thought that was a silly idea.I don't know where he stands on this issue but he took notes and let me say my piece.I hope to hear back from him soon.

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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2010, 11:23:34 AM »
The returning Varsity Twirlers will be able to use their boxes again this year.  That was officially announced yesterday. 

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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2010, 11:49:44 AM »
Yes, this is true.  I spoke with Mr. Curl and Mr. Wells,  thank you guys for making this possible.

I have tried to not say anything negative on this website about any individual involved, but I have reached my limit.  Today Ms. Briggs called in the Sr. Twirlers and pressured them not to us their boxes.  The two Co-Head twirlers have decided not to use their boxes, due to this meeting.  Apparently these two twirlers were put in an uncomfortible position because of this "meeting".

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM LADY????

Why can't you leave the girls and their boxes alone, let them have some fun with just an ounce of self expression or individualism.

I know in the big picture, this issue is just a dot....on the day to day running of a school district, but I think Ms. Briggs should see this as a dot and LET IT GO!  She is not on the field performing, this is not her Sr. year in school, it didn't cost her a DIME for these girls to have a decorated box.     JUST BACK OFF!!!!

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« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2010, 12:00:30 PM »
Good point.

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« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2010, 12:10:56 PM »
Yes, this is true.  I spoke with Mr. Curl and Mr. Wells,  thank you guys for making this possible.

I have tried to not say anything negative on this website about any individual involved, but I have reached my limit.  Today Ms. Briggs called in the Sr. Twirlers and pressured them not to us their boxes.  The two Co-Head twirlers have decided not to use their boxes, due to this meeting.  Apparently these two twirlers were put in an uncomfortible position because of this "meeting".

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM LADY????

Why can't you leave the girls and their boxes alone, let them have some fun with just an ounce of self expression or individualism.

I know in the big picture, this issue is just a dot....on the day to day running of a school district, but I think Ms. Briggs should see this as a dot and LET IT GO!  She is not on the field performing, this is not her Sr. year in school, it didn't cost her a DIME for these girls to have a decorated box.     JUST BACK OFF!!!!

Have you contacted the Principal?

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« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2010, 02:13:29 PM »
I can understand why the girls are upset.  Maybe some people don't have enough to do at the high school?  It just sounds ridiculous to me. Let the girls have their fun; we've already had ours when we were in school.

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« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2010, 09:56:33 AM »
no i have not contacted MR Keith.I have gotten more info from this meeting and if this woman don't keep her mouth closed I will see her with my lawyer and the school board .

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« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2010, 10:24:14 AM »
no i have not contacted MR Keith.I have gotten more info from this meeting and if this woman don't keep her mouth closed I will see her with my lawyer and the school board .

The lack of formal policies in many matters concerning student activities is a problem I've dealt with more than once.

It seems the rules change from day to day depending on who you talk to, and who's doing the asking.

Good luck to you.
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« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2010, 10:46:32 AM »
no i have not contacted MR Keith.I have gotten more info from this meeting and if this woman don't keep her mouth closed I will see her with my lawyer and the school board .

A lawyer? Over a plastic box? No offense, but that's taking it just a tad bit too far. Don't get me wrong; I'm all for letting the twirlers and Indianettes have their fun with their headdress boxes, but talking about getting a lawyer involved when you haven't even consulted the principal (especially in a threat like the one above) is a little extreme.
The thing about being an Indian is that you're an Indian, no matter what. It doesn't matter if you play soccer or a tuba, it doesn't matter if you're on the football team or the drill team, it doesn't matter if you lead the cheers or the jeers. You're still part of that "Honor, Pride, & Tradition."

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« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2010, 10:49:07 AM »
Band kid ,it has nothing to do with the box.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2010, 11:22:41 AM by bilman10 »

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« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2010, 11:27:26 AM »
school board meeting tomorrow night.. call  the  admin . office and get your name on the adgenda to tell the board about this problem and see what they can do for ya.
Send the smoke signals , let them all know that the PNG Indians are on the warpath!

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« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2010, 12:36:16 PM »
dea;lt with Ms. Briggs as a parent and she gives the impresson that she is on a power trip!!!

1 question WHO asked to do away with the boxes in the first place??

Bet it was not a ndnette officier!

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« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2010, 12:43:58 PM »
Bandkid, right or wrong, the word lawyer has been used several times in the past.  Mostly, by lawyers themselves when they did not like the rules. Everytime it seems, they got their way. While hiring an attorney over the boxes may seem over the top, I can understand their frustration.

I agree that the school needs to have rules in place.  In the past, there were rules that were broken to pacify some parents. the school needs to have rules and stand firm with them.  It is not fair to make some follow them while allowing others the dictate how things are gonna be.

With concern to the boxes, all of the parents involved need to have a meeting with Mr. Keith, Ms.Briggs, and the sponsors.  Maybe, they can come to some agreement without any more frustration

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« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2010, 01:58:36 PM »
Bark i dont think it happened this year,5 of 8 twirlers are returnig 2 of the other 3 got a box anyway the one left has said she would get on if she was going to be able to use it.As far as i am concerned the box issue is closed the district is going to allow returning twirlers to use their boxes.If someone wants to take up the fight for the jrs or indianetts i will help them. the lawyer post comes from an issue that stems from the boxes but not for the boxes and this site is not the place to air it.

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« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2010, 10:12:37 PM »
Whether big or small, tradition is what sets apart PNG Indians from other schools.  This reminds me of a few short years ago when the Indianette sponsors were going to eliminate some traditions.  It effected a small group, but for them it was a big deal.  For the Twirlers and Indianettes this is like not allowing the girl's volleyball team to be called ROCK A NOOS because of one person's actions.  I am sure that these girls are supposed to held to a higher standard as representatives of the school.  It does not seem fair to punish all future participants for one person's actions last year.  It should be that if inappropriate material/messages is placed on the boxes then that person should be removed from participation until the infraction is corrected or if serious enough removed from participation completely.  If in fact this is a decision made by sponsors, could this issue be taken to the administration for resolution?  Just a thought and some of you have already tried that remedy.

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« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2010, 11:08:33 AM »
The twirler sponsor doesn't like the word "Tradition".  That was made clear last year, from what I hear.

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« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2010, 11:17:04 AM »
The twirler sponsor doesn't like the word "Tradition".  That was made clear last year, from what I hear.

If this is true (and I am not douting your word) than the twirler sponsor is at the wrong school!

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« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2010, 12:38:40 PM »
The twirler sponsor doesn't like the word "Tradition".  That was made clear last year, from what I hear.

If this is true (and I am not douting your word) than the twirler sponsor is at the wrong school!
AMEN! That is why I've been so upset about our fight song being played wrong and the band director, who knows the fans are upset, doesn't give a flip.  The twirler sponsor and the band director should realize WE pay their salaries.

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« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2010, 03:08:51 PM »
The twirler sponsor stated in a meeting with JV and Freshman twirlers and parents that she did not like traditions when questioned by some of the JV twirlers about the tradition of helping the Freshman put beads on their uniforms. It is a minor thing to her I am sure, but there were several moms sitting in the meeting who are former twirlers and Indianettes who are proud of the traditions that have been carried down from year to year so that our daughters get to enjoy the same feeling of HONOR, PRIDE, AND TRADITION that we all had in high school. I am not saying every tradition has been passed down because it hasn't but don't belittle the idea of our high school being proud of its traditions. I am very proud to be an INDIAN.

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« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2010, 04:51:39 PM »
I am VERY VERY proud of the high school I graduated from, when I graduated and all of the HONOR PRIDE AND TRADITIONS that our school has/had. I know "ALL" of the traditions for one reason or another have not been passed down (Varsity Shows, Sr. Play, Bowing to the totem pole, etc....) BUT one of the things PNG is very well know for (state wide) is their traditions! Just my personal opinion but ANYONE and I mean ANYONE that is a sponsor/director or any kind of leader of all of our different club/organizations. Should first and foremost put traditions first. They should try to uphold all the traditions like all the other alumni that have passed through PNG have. If that person/leader can not, will not or feel like they want, up hold PNG's traditions (whether they believe in them or not) than they need to step down or go to another school district that doesn't care about traditions. Period! I don't care who you are, who your kin to, married to or what you family name is. You can't say you are from PNG, graduated from PNG or be any part of PNG and NOT believe in traditions!!!!

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« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2010, 08:29:36 PM »
well if a group of perfect strangers (i don't know who yall  are) can all agree on the importance of PNG traditions than why can't the people we entrust with them get it ?

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« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2010, 08:42:55 PM »
Good posts! I agree wholeheartedly.  The Traditions are as important as Pride and Honor.
Why can't our employees support our time-tested traditions and allow the students to enjoy their high school education so they can come back someday and still be proud?

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« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2010, 11:39:55 PM »
The Tradition we have at PNG makes us unique and others school wish they had what we have!  Look at the MCM that is the longest standing game in the state for over 80 yrs. No other school can touch PNG base on the tradition that we have.  I for one was glad that i lived through the tradiotion from getting my head shaved in 9th grade to bowing at teh totem pole. I can proudly say that I am a PNG INDIANS and my blood bleeds PURPLE!

We are known for our tradiotions and the TRAIL OF PURPLE AND WHITE DOWN THAT HIGHWA TO SUPPORT OUR BOYS AND GIRLS!
Send the smoke signals , let them all know that the PNG Indians are on the warpath!

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« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2010, 09:06:02 PM »
I realize this may step on some folks toes, but if you are at PNG and DON'T BELIEVE IN TRADITION THEN YOU ARE AT THE WRONG PLACE AND MORE THAN WELCOME TO LEAVE, GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM OR GO TO SOME OTHER SCHOOL THAT HAS LITTLE OR NO TRADITION.  PNG is rich in tradition, always has been and always will be.  It is the tradition that us the most envied state wide.  Not  because we excell as the best band, drill team, softball/baseball team, football team, tennis team, golf team, soccer team, or anyother atheletic team or scholastic team.  It is the honor, pride and tradition that those who have walked the halls as students, those who came back to teach here, work and live here so their kids can experience the tradition, etc.  Those folks are PNG High School and they always will be.  You can travel across the country wearing a PNG T-shirt and you will be dang lucky if someone doesn't stop you.  They are either one of us, wish they had been one of us or heard of us.  How do you think that PNG got the priviledge of being requested to play at the Dave Campbell Classic in San Antonio?  It is in part due to the tradition of our fan base.  For the parents and students who have encountered the problems with sponsors that don't like tradition my heart truly goes out to you.  That being said, I still have to say DON'T GIVE UP ON TRADITION AND DON'T GIVE UP THE FIGHT TO KEEP TRADITION ALIVE.  This same type of thing happend in 2006 and those fighting for tradition finally prevailed because they continued to pursue the issue with the right folks in administration who believe that the values of honor, pride and tradition are what make our school what it is today.