Head Dress Boxes for Indianette Cap., Lt. & Indian Twirlers

[PNGROW4650YRDLN]

Like I said before, I don't have a stake in this arguement except I am a firm believer in TRADITION.  Especially one where no harm is done.  These girls are being denied TRADITION supposedly because of something that happened last year with someone that is probably not even a student now.  I understand that sometimes things are not for all ears.  However, in this case it does seem like there is something a little funny going on.  I suspect that everything is to be kept secret because it is probably so absolutely crazy that the parents of those involved would be on the war path in the principal's office and/or school board meeting with tomahawks a waving.  I can say this, if I had a child (and yes, these are still children) that could not and would not tell me the nature of the meeting I would be furious, especially if it was upsetting to my child.  It appears that the sponsor(s) have put the fear of God in these kids and threatened that they will not be able to participate in upcoming games, etc.  God and myself would be the only two with permission to intimidate my child in that way.  This is not about an inappropriate message on a box last year by one person.  This is about a power struggle and looks like the sponsor is winning the battle.  I have always thought when you go into battle, you get as many Indians as you can and all go into the battle at one time.  That being said, my suggestion is that all the parents and all the girls involved all hit the warpath together.  That way no one knows who said what and let the cat out of the bag.  POWER IN NUMBERS INDIANS, PUT ON THE WARPAINT, SHARPEN THE TOMAHAWKS AND GO TO WAR WITH THE FOLKS THAT HAVE THE REAL POWER AT THE SCHOOL/SCHOOL BOARD AND RESOLVE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL.  It may not work the way you want it to, but you will always fail if you never try and/or give it 100% effort.  Think about parents, this is a way to show your kids how to go about things the right way, win or lose.  A tought lesson in life is better now than later.

[ndnette81]

When my oldest daughter was a twirler we did not have any of these problems and I actually enjoyed her being a twirler. I don't get the feeling any of these twirler parents are enjoying this year and that is such a shame.  I think it is very strange that so many different excuses for the boxes keep coming up. I personally have heard three different stories: imappropriate message on indianette box, trying to save the parents money, and that other school districts have complained that being in a leadership position in our school district costs too much. Do you really think the people in Nederland care how much it costs us for our kids to be something in school. None of my friends in Nederland care they all think this is a ridiculous mess on the part of the school.  They aren't saving me any money either because I have another daughter that in a few years wants to try out for twirler and if she makes it she'll get a headdress box because she's wanted one since her older sister had one years ago.  The sponsor and the administrators need to worry about doing their job at school and let the parents worry about what we spend our money on.

[lamar06]

The Latest:  My daughter is the co-head twirler for this year 2010-2011 and she said that all twirlers inclusive of junior CAN use their painted box to store their head dress.  She said that a Ms. B. was the one instigating about the cost etc... but now the problem has being solved and back to status quo.  I like to see those painted boxes as each and everyone is different show their personality . 

[PNGROW4650YRDLN]

The Latest:  My daughter is the co-head twirler for this year 2010-2011 and she said that all twirlers inclusive of junior CAN use their painted box to store their head dress.  She said that a Ms. B. was the one instigating about the cost etc... but now the problem has being solved and back to status quo.  I like to see those painted boxes as each and everyone is different show their personality . 

WOOOOO WHOOOOO and the TRADITION lives on.

[purplepride]

I am really sorry that these girls have had to deal with this.  I hope the one responsible for this has been held accountable, but I'm sure it was a big laugh to them and they have moved on to the next big drama mess.  PB is all about causing problems with kids and their parents.  I hear she has a group of these parents she gossips with on a daily basis and they give her info about students (really none of her business).  I really don't know why people say she runs that school, maybe she does.   It is time this power thing is stopped and all kids are treated equal no matter who is kissing who's butt at the schools.  It sounds like she wants to make a few of these girls miserable.  Good luck

[87NDN]

I appreciate everyones support on this topic .I have not posted for awhile because I have been dealing with another issue that arose due to the boxes.After Mr Curl sent word down to allow the sr girls to use their boxes a secret meeting was called .The girls were told not to tell anyone about it .In this meeting several statements were made to make the girls feel threatened and intimidated.I filed a level one grievance with Mr Keith.Mr Keith setteled my grievance in a matter that was satisfactory to me,my wife,and child.I would hope that more parents would be involved with their kids in the future and we can weed out the personal agendas that some in control seem to have.I will continue to monitor this area ,if anything like this meeting happens again my wife and I will move up to a level two or three grievance.I am trying to teach my daughter that you stand up for yourself in life.I hope there will be no more lessons on this issue.

[PNGROW4650YRDLN]

I appreciate everyones support on this topic .I have not posted for awhile because I have been dealing with another issue that arose due to the boxes.After Mr Curl sent word down to allow the sr girls to use their boxes a secret meeting was called .The girls were told not to tell anyone about it .In this meeting several statements were made to make the girls feel threatened and intimidated.I filed a level one grievance with Mr Keith.Mr Keith setteled my grievance in a matter that was satisfactory to me,my wife,and child.I would hope that more parents would be involved with their kids in the future and we can weed out the personal agendas that some in control seem to have.I will continue to monitor this area ,if anything like this meeting happens again my wife and I will move up to a level two or three grievance.I am trying to teach my daughter that you stand up for yourself in life.I hope there will be no more lessons on this issue.

My hat is off to you sir. 

[bamakid]

In my experience as a student, Mrs. Briggs has been one of the most reputable administrators at the high school. I realize that there are other students who disagree with this opinion for various reasons. However, I have always found that her good deeds greatly outweigh the so-called bad ones.

[purplepride]

Consider yourself lucky, but damage has been done to some students and something needs to be done.  Every kid deserves to be treated equal and should not be judged because their family can't afford to donate money to the school. 

[bamakid]

Every kid deserves to be treated equal and should not be judged because their family can't afford to donate money to the school. 

That one statement contradicts every single experience I have had in more than three years of high school. I have never seen a student set aside because his or her parents weren't supportive enough. I've seen some students with involved parents get special privileges (and they weren't coming from Mrs. Briggs), but I've never seen a faculty member cast a student out of a program or position in favor of another student whose parents are more supportive.

Mrs. Briggs is the coordinator of student activities. She makes sure that every single extra-curricular program at the high school has all of the necessary resources (which requires a LOT of time and effort thanks to the number of programs PN-G has and the widespread involvement of our students), in addition to putting together Project Graduation and basically running the graduation ceremony. I will be the first to tell you that I don't agree with every decision she makes (including the one regarding the headdress boxes), but I will be the last to crucify her for those decisions because of the sheer amount of work she puts in and the level of commitment to this school she has shown.

[purplepride]

A big thanks to the parents who stand up for their kids and teach their kids to stand up for themselves.  Teachers and Administrators should not be able to bully students for years and get away with it.  Like I have said before let the house cleaning begin; out with the same old deadwood and in with what is best for all kids involved. A community should be made up of everyone not one church and one vote.   Good luck big Cav, Gonzales and the new board

[mllandamlmom]

Bandkid,  I am a parent, and I can sit here and write that you do not know what is going on with all the students.  Kudos to you for being part of Ms. Briggs fan club.   Perhaps your lucky that you have not been placed in a pressured or uncomfortable position from comments of one of the administrative employees or a teacher.   I personally hope you are never put in a bad situation, my family wasn't so lucky.  So while you are tooting your horn on the Ms. Briggs bandwagon,  I stand upset and ashamed of the actions of some of the administration.

[Justafan]

Wow this is about Church and Religion now....

[bamakid]

A big thanks to the parents who stand up for their kids and teach their kids to stand up for themselves.  Teachers and Administrators should not be able to bully students for years and get away with it.  Like I have said before let the house cleaning begin; out with the same old deadwood and in with what is best for all kids involved. A community should be made up of everyone not one church and one vote.   Good luck big Cav, Gonzales and the new board

So, when did we start pitting the churches against each other?

Bandkid,  I am a parent, and I can sit here and write that you do not know what is going on with all the students.

No offense, but as a student, I could write the same about you.

Kudos to you for being part of Ms. Briggs fan club.   Perhaps your lucky that you have not been placed in a pressured or uncomfortable position from comments of one of the administrative employees or a teacher.   I personally hope you are never put in a bad situation, my family wasn't so lucky.  So while you are tooting your horn on the Ms. Briggs bandwagon,  I stand upset and ashamed of the actions of some of the administration.

It's become evident through some of the posts made earlier in this thread that there has been controversy surrounding the headdress boxes for some time now. Again, I don't agree with the now revoked decision, but I'm not going to overly criticize an administrator for trying to get rid of the boxes.

As far as intimidation goes, it could be said that any student who sits in a meeting with an administrator could feel intimidated simply because of the title. However, I would be interested to know more about the twirler sponsor's role in this (don't mean to be accusatory, just think it's a gray area that should be cleared up).

Oh, and by the way, I hope the twirlers enjoyed the Mexican food they had in San Antonio after the game against Gregory-Portland. Mrs. Briggs arranged for that to happen when all the school had to do was provide a sandwich and a drink.

[IndianFan]

Wow this is about Church and Religion now....

I would hope common sense, accountability for one's actions, and setting a proper example would come to mind to all rather than pulling the religion card.

[Justafan]

Agreed IndianFan!!!!!

[ndnette81]

Mrs. Briggs may have single handedly arranged for the Mexican food for the twirlers (even though several of them stayed in San Antonio with their parents and didn't eat the Mexican food) and band and indianettes after the Alamodome game, but she also contributed greatly to the chaos and confusion with where the indianettes were to sit during the game and to the mass confusion with picking the students after the game.  Things like that did not happen under the previous two Directors of Student Activities.

[bamakid]

That's correct. Several students did stay in San Antonio. My only point with the talk of the Mexican food was to point out that it's not like the woman sits there and comes up with ways to torture high school students.

As far as confusion after the game goes, chaos is hard to avoid when you're in the midst of 250 teenagers after a football game and 5-6 hour trip.

[NDN NATION]

I thought the twirlers ate with the Band, Indianettes, Cheerleaders and G-Crew before the game?

[bamakid]

They did. There were two meals provided for the band, Indianettes, twirlers, cheerleaders, and Geronimo's Crew. One was a meal given upon arrival at the stadium with sandwiches and salads provided by a local deli, and the other was at a Tex-Mex restaurant near the Alamodome after the game.

In my opinion, Mrs. Briggs walked the proverbial extra mile to ensure that we had something good to eat. If the district wanted to, it could've just had the nutritional classes and the cafeteria ladies pack PB&J sandwiches in brown bags like other districts have done.

[purplepride]

With the number of tickets sold to this game and the amount of money made the school district could have paid for all groups to stay in San Antonio over night with three meals both days.  We could have also brought along the rest of the students who couldn't afford to go and still had money left over. Point is the district made lots of $$$ off the ticket sales from this game.  Our family spent close to 600.00 for two nights with food and gas.  The mess after the game was ridiculous, but not sure who was responsible for that.  Stuff like that just makes the district look bad.

[pngmom4]

That's correct. Several students did stay in San Antonio. My only point with the talk of the Mexican food was to point out that it's not like the woman sits there and comes up with ways to torture high school students.

As far as confusion after the game goes, chaos is hard to avoid when you're in the midst of 250 teenagers after a football game and 5-6 hour trip.

the mass confusion that Mrs. Briggs started was before the game. She insisted that several people move from their seats, including myself and family.  To this day I have no idea why she was adamant that the Indianettes not sit in the rows allotted to them. 

[purplepride]

I think the power has went to her head.  She's all about showing everyone who really runs the school.

[bamakid]

With the number of tickets sold to this game and the amount of money made the school district could have paid for all groups to stay in San Antonio over night with three meals both days.  We could have also brought along the rest of the students who couldn't afford to go and still had money left over. Point is the district made lots of $$$ off the ticket sales from this game.  Our family spent close to 600.00 for two nights with food and gas.  The mess after the game was ridiculous, but not sure who was responsible for that.  Stuff like that just makes the district look bad.

Are you sure about that? I would need to hear some figures to believe that. That sounds awfully expensive. Granted, the football team did it, but on the Athletic Booster Club's dime, not the district's.

I also seem to remember some posts made on this site that talked about the district breaking even with the Alamodome game.

That's correct. Several students did stay in San Antonio. My only point with the talk of the Mexican food was to point out that it's not like the woman sits there and comes up with ways to torture high school students.

As far as confusion after the game goes, chaos is hard to avoid when you're in the midst of 250 teenagers after a football game and 5-6 hour trip.

the mass confusion that Mrs. Briggs started was before the game. She insisted that several people move from their seats, including myself and family.  To this day I have no idea why she was adamant that the Indianettes not sit in the rows allotted to them. 

Ok, let's explore the issue. Where were the Indianettes originally going to sit?

I think the power has went to her head.  She's all about showing everyone who really runs the school.

Anyone who knows Marc Keith knows that he wouldn't have an official on his staff who he thought was bent on "showing everyone who really runs the school" rather than doing what's best for students like myself.

[Justafan]

I think the power has went to her head.  She's all about showing everyone who really runs the school.

You sound like a episode of 90210.